[190106] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Wed Jun 15 16:14:42 2016
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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:14:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Getting people to show up can be a challenge. I've been asked by members of two midwestern IXes to come to their markets because their existing donation-supported loose and easy IX isn't really doing anything for them. Not arguing models, arguing that what should matter is results.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Seth Mattinen" <sethm@rollernet.us>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:14:21 PM
Subject: Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
On 6/15/16 05:37, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I agree that the SIX is a fine organization, but the framework of the organization has little to do with the members getting screwed over. A non-profit donation-based IX that doesn't produce results could be screwing its "customers" over more than a MRC-based for-profit IX that does produce.
An IX just needs to "produce" a layer 2 peering fabric. That's not a
tall order to get results from. Anything beyond that is extra fluff.
Some people want to pay more for the fluff, some don't.
~Seth
