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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Wed Jun 15 01:25:17 2016

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From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:25:04 +0300
In-Reply-To: <m2twgvk6dz.wl%randy@psg.com>
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On 14/06/2016 20:49, Randy Bush wrote:
> the O in nanog is operator, not sponsor, panderer, suck up, ...  we're
> spending millions for half debugged underperforming crap and we are
> cornered by infrastructure providers (e.g. ixps) who run us over time
> and again if it makes an extra penny.

I am not at NANOG67 and am following this issue remotely.  Excuse me if I=
 am getting this all wrong.  Dave shows a slide that LINX made $2.3M prof=
it and AMS-IX made $4.1M last year and Randy states "that the IXPs run us=
 over to make an extra penny"? =20

Would we prefer that Level3 which reported profits of $122M operate the I=
XPs instead?  Or perhaps NTT with $4.7B in profits in 2015?

The Internet is no longer a volunteer operation run out of a few CS depar=
tments in major universities.  If an IXP makes $4M of profit - good for t=
hem.  I'd rather have each of these IXPs not only secure from cyber attac=
ks but also secure financially.=20

To all IXPs that keep the bits flowing - keep up the good work.  Kudos!

-Hank



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