[190033] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RPKI and offline routes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthias Waehlisch)
Mon Jun 13 18:55:05 2016
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:53:45 -0500 (Central Sommerzeit)
From: Matthias Waehlisch <m.waehlisch@fu-berlin.de>
To: Theodore Baschak <theodore@ciscodude.net>
In-Reply-To: <18D189BA-2EC6-4DE2-8ADB-DFFB8C3528EE@ciscodude.net>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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Hi,
the creation of a ROA does not require the announcement of the prefix.
Creation of a ROA, prefix announcement, and validation of the prefix are
decoupled. If you are the legitimate resource holder you can create a
ROA for this prefix (even if you don't advertise the prefix). As soon as
the prefix is advertised, third parties can validate based on the
created ROA.
However, in case the hijacker is able to use the legitimate origin
ASN, the validation outcome would be valid. You would need to assign the
prefix to an ASN that cannot be hijacked or is dropped for other
reasons. (Or do BGPsec. ;)
Cheers
matthias
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Theodore Baschak wrote:
> Can RPKI be used with routes that are not being advertised at the moment?
> As in to sign a route that *could* be there, but is not there presently.
>
> There's been several BGP hijacks that I've followed closely that
> involved hijacking IP space as well as the ASN that would normally
> originate it. I'm wondering if having valid ROAs/RPKI would have
> helped in this case or not.
>
>
> Theodore Baschak - AS395089 - Hextet Systems
>