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Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Fri Jun 10 21:48:48 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:48:42 -0700
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Chuck Church <chuckchurch@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <021b01d1c380$29d218c0$7d764a40$@gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

> Well, they have to power to push out net neutrality.  This intentional
> blocking of tunneling customers because their crap method of
> geo-location can't be used and thus hinders advancement of the
> internet (IPv6) is something that should disallowed.

you omitted the "in my opinion."

the facts are that

  o netflix is under serious pressure from media, from whom they have
    i lot of legal pain, to restrict distribution geographically.  you
    may want to take this up with the media folk.

  o tunnels, including HE's, prevent neflix from geolocating the user.

  o the HE v6 tunnels are a hack which, while it helps many folk get
    almost-ipv6, is still a hack and has many undiserable consequences.
    this is only one.  for many folk, the benefits are worth the
    consequences.  this does not make the sow's ear into a silk purse.

  o screaming at netflix may be cathartic, but it ain't gonna get you or
    anyone else anywhere.  but i guess nanog needs the message traffic.

randy

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