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Re: intra-AS messaging for route leak prevention

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo)
Tue Jun 7 01:03:38 2016

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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:03:38 -0400
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net>
To: Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>, "Sriram,
 Kotikalapudi \(Fed\)" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>
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On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 05:54:18PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 11:41:52AM +0000, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote:
> > I am a co-author on a route-leak detection/mitigation/prevention draft 
> > in the IDR WG in the IETF:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation-03  
> > 
> > Question: Are there other means of conveying this information 
> > in common use today (i.e. for prevention of route leaks)?  
[snip]
> 
> For instance AT&T and NTT agreed (through email) that there should be no
> intermediate networks between 2914 & 7018, therefore NTT blocks
> announcements that match as-path-regexp '_7018_' on any and all eBGP
> sessions, except the direct sessions with 7018. NTT calls this concept
> "peerlocking".
> 
> I'll cover this approach at the upcoming NANOG meeting in Chicago:
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=2860
 
Dropping unexpected AS vectors was frequently used in the 1990s 
by folks, especially in the context of seeking to ensure traffic 
intended for direct/private interconnections stayed on them. I 
know some folks would also just filter "big networks" (to avoid 
that marketing term) from other peers to sidestep the impact of 
leaks.

It doesn't fit for all peers/networks (eg content which will 
seek alternate paths around congestion), but if you can fold 
it into your automation it is helpful.

Cheers!

Joe

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