[189725] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Reynolds)
Mon Jun 6 02:53:25 2016
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From: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 01:53:21 -0500
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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I've worked at my fair share of eyeball ISPs, and many of them used HE
as one of their connections,
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:38 AM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
> On 6/5/16 6:23 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> Uhm, what? Where do you think ISPs get their transit exactly?
>
> They buy from 2 or more wholesale transit providers and in general they
> opportunistically peer, although scale helps a lot there.
>
>> On Jun 5, 2016 8:17 PM, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com
>> <mailto:joelja@bogus.com>> wrote:
>>
>> HE's downstream cone does not include a whole lot of residential ISPs.
>> if you further exclude the ones that are multihomed you're left with a
>> pretty small subset. that said they (HE) can be and are a valuable peer
>> both in v4 and v6.
>>
>> Personally I wouldn't single home to anything that looks tier-1ish but
>> your mileage may vary the residential operators I look at tend to be
>> fairly diversly connected.
>>
>> On 6/3/16 5:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> > You might be one of a handful.
>> > On Jun 3, 2016 7:35 PM, "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com
>> <mailto:gem@rellim.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yo Spencer!
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:13:03 -0400
>> >> Spencer Ryan <sryan@arbor.net <mailto:sryan@arbor.net>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly.
>> >>
>> >> Really? I am the only one? Doubtful.
>> >>
>> >> RGDS
>> >> GARY
>> >>
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>> >> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
>> >> gem@rellim.com <mailto:gem@rellim.com> Tel:+1 541 382
>> 8588 <tel:%2B1%20541%20382%208588>
>> >>
>> >
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