[189723] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Mon Jun 6 01:38:49 2016
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To: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:38:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
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On 6/5/16 6:23 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> Uhm, what? Where do you think ISPs get their transit exactly?
They buy from 2 or more wholesale transit providers and in general they
opportunistically peer, although scale helps a lot there.
> On Jun 5, 2016 8:17 PM, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com
> <mailto:joelja@bogus.com>> wrote:
>=20
> HE's downstream cone does not include a whole lot of residential IS=
Ps.
> if you further exclude the ones that are multihomed you're left wit=
h a
> pretty small subset. that said they (HE) can be and are a valuable =
peer
> both in v4 and v6.
>=20
> Personally I wouldn't single home to anything that looks tier-1ish =
but
> your mileage may vary the residential operators I look at tend to =
be
> fairly diversly connected.
>=20
> On 6/3/16 5:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> > You might be one of a handful.
> > On Jun 3, 2016 7:35 PM, "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com
> <mailto:gem@rellim.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Yo Spencer!
> >>
> >> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:13:03 -0400
> >> Spencer Ryan <sryan@arbor.net <mailto:sryan@arbor.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly.
> >>
> >> Really? I am the only one? Doubtful.
> >>
> >> RGDS
> >> GARY
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> >> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR =
97703
> >> gem@rellim.com <mailto:gem@rellim.com> Tel:+1 541 382
> 8588 <tel:%2B1%20541%20382%208588>
> >>
> >
>=20
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