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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Sun Jun 5 21:20:01 2016

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HE's downstream cone does not include a whole lot of residential ISPs.
if you further exclude the ones that are multihomed you're left with a
pretty small subset. that said they (HE) can be and are a valuable peer
both in v4 and v6.

Personally I wouldn't single home to anything that looks tier-1ish but
your mileage may vary the residential operators I look  at tend to be
fairly diversly connected.

On 6/3/16 5:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> You might be one of a handful.
> On Jun 3, 2016 7:35 PM, "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Yo Spencer!
>>
>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 20:13:03 -0400
>> Spencer Ryan <sryan@arbor.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly.
>>
>> Really?  I am the only one?  Doubtful.
>>
>> RGDS
>> GARY
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
>>         gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
>>
>=20



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