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Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marc Storck)
Wed Jun 1 17:50:38 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Marc Storck <mstorck@voipgate.com>
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:50:28 +0000
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Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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I'm not saying anyone is wrong here. I merely want to point out eventual in=
compatabilities.

So please don't get me wrong.

Regards,

Marc

> On 1 juin 2016, at 23:46, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Marc Storck <mstorck@voipgate.com> wrote:
>>>              .-----------------.
>>>              |                 |
>>>              |               B |--------- D
>>>   S ---------| A      R        |
>>>              |               C |--------- (toward S)
>>>              |                 |
>>>              `-----------------'
>> With BCP38 in mind, could there be situations
>> where Router R is not allowed to source packets
>> with address A out of interface C?
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> Hi Marc,
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> I think you're right. Address A in a /30 from ISP A. ISP C accepts
> source addresses from your /24 but not the A /30.  So if the router
> does not follow the RFC (sends an ICMP packet out C with a source
> address from A), typical asynchronous routing can result in
> black-holding the ICMP error message.
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> You've hit on a good reason to follow the RFC by default instead of
> doing what Randy wants. ;)
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> -Bill
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> William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com  bill@herrin.us
> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>

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