[188773] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Todd Crane)
Thu Apr 14 19:43:12 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Todd Crane <todd.crane@n5tech.com>
In-Reply-To: <60434.1460553905@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:43:00 -0700
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
You do realize that this is the exact kind of thing that caused this discuss=
ion in the first place. I'm well familiar with that case. I was talking abou=
t my own experiences in the food service industry, but of course you barely r=
ead a sentence and set on a war path accusing me of not checking my facts, q=
uite like somebody googling a geolocation for an ip and harnessing/threateni=
ng the other side.
As to the case, it had its merits, but since then it has spawned a whole bun=
ch of people trying to get rich quick. Now every company has to put these wa=
rning labels to appease their insurance companies. Now we have people that c=
an't think for themselves that NEED labels. It's much like the debate about t=
rying to legislate common sense.
Todd Crane
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:57:42 -0700, Todd Crane said:
>> .What ever happened to holding people responsible for being
>> stupid. When did it start becoming ((fill in the blank)) coffee shop
>> for you burning your tongue on your coffee
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> Whatever happened to holding people responsible for fact checking before t=
hey
> post? :)
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> You *do* realize that the woman in the McDonald's case got *third degree*
> burns and required skin grafts, right? Water at 180F is hot enough to
> burn you - we even have a word for it: scalding. And unlike sipping too-h=
ot
> coffee, where you can spit it out quickly, hot water spilled on clothing
> continues to burn until the clothing is removed or cooled off - neither of=
> which is feasible when you're elderly and seated in a car.
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> And that she originally only sued for the cost of her medical bills, and t=
he
> jury increased it with punitive damages when presented evidence that over 7=
00
> other people had received burns?
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> Now go and get informed, and commit this sin no more :)
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> https://www.caoc.org/?pg=3Dfacts - how that lawsuit *actually* played out.=
