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Re: phone fun,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Apr 14 17:35:50 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <570FFA31.3040708@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:33:30 -0700
To: Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon@cox.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


> On Apr 14, 2016, at 13:14 , Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon@cox.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you =
won't
>>>> have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very
>>>> expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP lines, the address =
is
>>>> *supposed* to be so registered, but softphones and even VoIP =
handsets
>>>> tend to move around without the user considering 9-1-1.
>>>=20
>>> VoIP was dragged kicking and screaming into E911, so now they charge
>>> extra and are quite clear about it.  My VoIP provider regularly
>>> reminds me to update my 9-1-1 address, but since I don't have to pay
>>> the 9-1-1 fee if I lie and say I'm outside North America, that's =
what
>>> I do.  Since I also have a classic CO-powered copper landline (1/4
>>> mile from the CO, no concentrators or repeaters) and a couple of =
cell
>>> phones, I think we're covered.
>>=20
>> With my VOIP provider, I didn=E2=80=99t quite have to lie.
>>=20
>> I generally don=E2=80=99t need my VOIP number when I=E2=80=99m in the =
US (cell is free here),
>> so I simply told them =E2=80=9CI do not intend to use this number or =
this service
>> within the US=E2=80=9D.
>>=20
>> The first time I sent them a marked-up contract, they contacted me =
with
>> questions. The following year, the new version of the contract =
reflected
>> my changes to their original wording.
>>=20
>> Since then, I=E2=80=99ve been pretty much satisfied with my service =
from callcentric
>> and the price is right.
>=20
> Quick question:  What happens (in the purely hypothetical case, I =
sincerely hope) if the building is on fire and it turns out that the =
VOIP-phone is the only one that works?

That would be an interesting phenomenon since my VOIP clients are both =
dependent on data services working on one of laptop, iPad, iPhone.

> Do you leave it turned off?

Of course not, but since the building in question is very unlikely to =
have been any address I would have filed on said contract, it=E2=80=99s =
far better that the person at the other end is having to ask me for the =
address than to have emergency workers respond to some location that =
I=E2=80=99m not at.

If, OTOH, the building in question is my home, I=E2=80=99m more likely =
to get a faster response by banging on a neighbors door than by =
struggling to get the VOIP phone up and running on some alternative =
connectivity.

Owen



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