[188709] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sven-Haegar Koch)
Wed Apr 13 07:09:53 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:09:35 +0200 (CEST)
From: Sven-Haegar Koch <haegar@sdinet.de>
To: Nathan Anderson <nathana@fsr.com>
In-Reply-To: <C12CA40900F4E0448A2D4E66DFA6A59B231A86879E@Demekin.FSI.local>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016, Nathan Anderson wrote:
> What I do get upset hearing about, though, is law enforcement
> agencies using that kind of data in order to execute a warrant. There
> is nothing actionable there, and yet from the sounds of it, some LEAs
> are getting search warrants or conducting raids on houses where they
> believe they have a solid 1-to-1 mapping of IP address to physical
> address. Which is absolutely inexcusable.
Just watch any more or less recent CSI / crime TV show.
They have "an IP", enter it into some gizmo, and it spits out the
address, mostly shown on a nice sat image.
That is so "normal" in TV that for Bully Policeman it just has to exist,
and the reaction to a webform where you can enter an IP and get an
address will just be "great, now I also have this" - no further
thinking to be expected.
And finding a Judge signing off nearly any warrant put in front of them
is also not new.
c'ya
sven-haegar
--
Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
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