[188676] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Wayne Bouchard)
Tue Apr 12 02:43:13 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 23:42:32 -0700
From: Wayne Bouchard <web@typo.org>
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
In-Reply-To: <20160411181508.60367.qmail@ary.lan>
Cc: steve@blighty.com, nanog@nanog.org
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 06:15:08PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
>
> >The problem with MaxMind (and other geoip databases I've seen that do Lat/Long as well as Country / State / Town) is that the
> >data doesn't include uncertainty, so it returns "38.0/-97.0" rather than "somewhere in a 3000 mile radius circle centered on
> >38.0/-97.0".
> >
> >Someone should show them RFC 1876 as an example of better practice.
>
> Oh, heck, you know better than that. You can put in all the flags and
> warnings you want, but if it returns an address, nitwits will show up
> at the address with guns.
>
> Bodies of water probably are the least bad alternative. I wonder if
> they're going to hydrolocate all of the unknown addresses, or only the
> ones where they get publically shamed.
I personal favor setting the generic location as a certain set of
roundish holes in the ground up in the northern plains. Let the
government raid itself for once.
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Wayne Bouchard
web@typo.org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/
