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Re: Stop IPv6 Google traffic

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sun Apr 10 16:34:21 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: bzs@theworld.com
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <22282.43671.253407.6403@pcls8.std.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 16:34:14 -0400
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:33:43 -0400, bzs@theworld.com said:
>
> <RANT level=MINOR>
>
> Ya know, this is the problem with this kind of list groupthink.
>
> Who cares what his motivations are unless he asks for help with that
> underlying problem?

Because when people apply band-aid solutions rather than fixing the *real*
problem, it usually ends up making other people's phones ring.

You've been around long enough to remember the hassles when ECN started
showing up in gear.  Who got the phone calls, the owner of the firewall that
didn't know about ECN, or the provider where the ECN originated?

Repeat the discussion for PMTU discovery. And for a *lot* of other instances.

And then there's the other elephant in the room - if Google is throwing
back captchas because it thinks there's a problem, the original poster's
abuse desk may want to deal with the underlying issue.

Maybe his network has real abuse problems they should deal with, maybe he's
just got a wonky configuration that makes it *look* like he has a problem.
I have no clue which - but it's a fair bet that if Google *thinks* there's
an issue, the original poster needs to fix the *real* problem, or they will
be stuck playing whack-a-mole with other sites that draw the same conclusions
as Google did.

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