[188216] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Why the US Government has so many data centers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Mikulasik)
Fri Mar 11 16:07:54 2016
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From: Steve Mikulasik <Steve.Mikulasik@civeo.com>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, Christopher Morrow
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:07:37 +0000
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This is a great way to create a mess of rules. Need a server for running an=
app locally to a site? You need XYZ standards that make no sense for your =
deploy and increase the cost by 10 times.=20
Our server guys always try to set standards, then they run into a deploy wh=
ere the needs are simple, but the standards make it significantly uneconomi=
cal.
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Subject: Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> o 'a machine under your desk' is not a production operation.
> (if you think it is, please stop, think again and move that=20
> service to conditioned power/cooling/ethernet)
Even worse, the new OMB data center definition wants says "(whether in a pr=
oduction, test, stage, development, or any other environment)".
In the non-government world, you want to keep test, staging and development=
separate from your "production." So your testing lab is now a "data cente=
r," and you must consolidate your "data centers"
together.
If you are optimizing servers, not data centers, then you probably want to =
consolidate your production servers in a data center. But there will still=
be lots of servers not in data centers, like the server in the parking gar=
age that controls the gates or the server in the building that controls HVA=
C. Its not smart to consolidate your HVAC servers and your credit card ser=
vers, as some companies have found out.
The U.S. government definition of data center is a bit like defining a ware=
house as any room containing a single ream of paper. Yes, warehouses are u=
sed to store reams of paper; but that doesn't make every place containing a=
ream of paper a warehouse.
