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Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Fri Mar 11 07:40:36 2016

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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:40:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
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Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2016, William Herrin wrote:

> It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to
> pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide
> to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to
> deliver on the basic service expectation you pay them for and refuse
> to do so unless a third party to your contract also pays them.

That's one way of looking at it.

However, which of your transits don't bill for bits exchanged with other 
customers of theirs...and how are they or you accounting for that traffic?

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