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Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 10 11:59:55 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20160310162411.GB8694@cmadams.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:56:51 -0800
To: Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Mar 10, 2016, at 08:24 , Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net> wrote:
>=20
> Once upon a time, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> said:
>> In fairness, however, this is because he is not Google=E2=80=99s =
customer, he
>> is Google=E2=80=99s product. Google is selling him (well, information =
about him
>> anyway) to their customers. They gather this information by offering
>> certain things he wants in exchange for him allowing them to collect
>> and redistribute this data.
>=20
> False supposition; Google does actually sell services as well.  =
$DAYJOB
> pays Google for services, and has paid Cogent for network access.

Not my assumption=E2=80=A6 Assumption included from Bill Herrin=E2=80=99s =
message=E2=80=A6

> Google, by contrast, makes no demand that Cogent pay them even though
> you are not paying Google for service.=20

(Underline added for emphasis)

Owen


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