[187810] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Thank you, Comcast.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Fri Feb 26 12:08:26 2016
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:03:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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This small audience also consists of predominately people that administer networks and would be doing such things. I'll be you'll find a vastly different percentage of the Cross Stitch Operators Group even know what DNS is, much less have any desire to change it.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
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From: "David Bass" <davidbass570@gmail.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns@2mbit.com>, nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:47:55 AM
Subject: Re: Thank you, Comcast.
I disagree...the point of what I sent (missed by some) is that in just this small audience there are many that do/have/know about customers that run their own stuff.
Trying to blow it off, or minimize those customers just makes you seem a little arrogant. Nothing worse than an arrogant business...
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than a tenth of a percent of people attempt to run their own DNS server. Some do because they think it'll be better in some way. Rare is the occasion where anything user configured would outperform a local DNS server managed by the ISP that does no form of trickery.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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> From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns@2mbit.com>
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:56:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Thank you, Comcast.
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>> On 2/26/16 6:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> "you will also block legitimate return traffic if the customers run
>> their own DNS servers or use opendns / google dns / etc."
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>> I'm fine with that. Residential customers shouldn't be running DNS
>> servers anyway and as far as the outside resolvers to go, ehhhh... I
>> see the case for OpenDNS given that you can use it to filter (though
>> that's easily bypassed), but not really for any others.
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> Except that half the time people run their own DNS resolvers because
> their provider's resolvers are
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> 1) Absolute garbage and either fail queries for no reason, don't respond
> at times, respond super slow, etc.
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> 2) Hijack NXDOMAIN for advertising / money generation
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> 3) Hijack responses to inject their own ads, popups, etc.
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> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
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