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Re: Thank you, Comcast.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Bass)
Fri Feb 26 11:50:17 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: David Bass <davidbass570@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <848464982.14027.1456503347620.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:47:55 -0500
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I disagree...the point of what I sent (missed by some) is that in just this s=
mall audience there are many that do/have/know about customers that run thei=
r own stuff. =20

Trying to blow it off, or minimize those customers just makes you seem a lit=
tle arrogant.  Nothing worse than an arrogant business... =20

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than a tenth of a percent of pe=
ople attempt to run their own DNS server. Some do because they think it'll b=
e better in some way. Rare is the occasion where anything user configured wo=
uld outperform a local DNS server managed by the ISP that does no form of tr=
ickery.=20
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> Mike Hammett=20
> Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
> http://www.ics-il.com=20
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> http://www.midwest-ix.com=20
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns@2mbit.com>=20
> To: nanog@nanog.org=20
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:56:40 AM=20
> Subject: Re: Thank you, Comcast.=20
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>> On 2/26/16 6:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:=20
>> "you will also block legitimate return traffic if the customers run=20
>> their own DNS servers or use opendns / google dns / etc."=20
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>> I'm fine with that. Residential customers shouldn't be running DNS=20
>> servers anyway and as far as the outside resolvers to go, ehhhh... I=20
>> see the case for OpenDNS given that you can use it to filter (though=20
>> that's easily bypassed), but not really for any others.
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> Except that half the time people run their own DNS resolvers because=20
> their provider's resolvers are=20
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> 1) Absolute garbage and either fail queries for no reason, don't respond=20=

> at times, respond super slow, etc.=20
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> 2) Hijack NXDOMAIN for advertising / money generation=20
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> 3) Hijack responses to inject their own ads, popups, etc.=20
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> Brielle Bruns=20
> The Summit Open Source Development Group=20
> http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org=20
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