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RE: Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (frnkblk@iname.com)
Fri Feb 19 19:57:33 2016
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To: "'Faisal Imtiaz'" <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:57:27 -0600
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Official statement here: =
https://knowledgelayer.softlayer.com/faq/softlayer-network-wide-ip-blocki=
ng
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+frnkblk=3Diname.com@nanog.org] On =
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Carlos A. Carnero Delgado <carloscarnero@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?
Ola Carlos,=20
I am very familiar with Govt. instituted restrictions, and yes, people =
always find ways to get around it. I cannot speak for the Cuban Gov. nor =
for the US Gov. as to what they decide to do and when.=20
What was/is irksome about Softlayer's decision is the following:-=20
1) Unilateral implementation of a restricted policy without any =
notification.=20
2) The broad stroke implementation of a Gov Policy that does not apply =
to the communication service they applied the policy to.=20
i.e. As much as we all dislike Dictatorial Behavior, and we fully =
recognize Softlayer is a Private Entity, who can exercise it's right to =
act Dictatorially, Such behavior in the overall community (Internet) is =
frowned upon and (as it should) have a long term negative affect to =
business.=20
Saludos.=20
Faisal Imtiaz=20
Snappy Internet & Telecom=20
7266 SW 48 Street=20
Miami, FL 33155=20
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232=20
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net=20
> From: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" <carloscarnero@gmail.com>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:08:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Softlayer / Blocking Cuba IP's ?
> Hi,
> (disclaimer: I'm Cuban national, living in Cuba, and a long time =
lurker in this
> great list)
> 2016-02-19 15:27 GMT-05:00 Faisal Imtiaz < faisal@snappytelecom.net > =
:
>> Considering the fact that such a block was just put in place about a =
week ago ?
>> Last time I checked, blocking any part of the world is not part of =
any legal
>> requirements on any Global Service Provider ? other than a 'company =
policy' ?
> Being denied access to services, as a Cuban national, is something =
that we've
> all experienced here and we (sadly) have come to accept it as a fact =
of life.
> Sometimes we resort to proxies/VPNs in order to conceal our origin -- =
and by a
> similar token, sometimes, our destination ;).
> However, there are a couple of things that have made me wondering how =
arbitrary
> decisions can be. I think sometimes it just boils down to specific =
provider
> policies that try to (maybe rightfully) cover their bottoms in the =
light of the
> law. For instance, I can't hide the fact that I have access to Gmail; =
but at
> the same time there are many Google properties and services than I =
can't. There
> are many companies, global companies, that I can't access, and others =
are open
> to us which are, paradoxically, completely based on the US and under =
US law
> (won't name them publicly to avoid potential damage).
> Any way, I'm going back to lurk mode. However, feel free to ask =
anything, on- of
> offlist. And I thank you all for this wonderful resource.
> Carlos.
