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X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org From: Chris Woodfield <rekoil@semihuman.com> In-Reply-To: <942200992.5161.1455332327631.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:33:04 -0800 To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org I've seen colos sell half-racks where both the top and bottoms of the racks h= ave their own cabinet doors. It's not a common thing though. -C > On Feb 12, 2016, at 18:58, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: >=20 > There are more options when you're not just using someone else's datacente= r.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----=20 > Mike Hammett=20 > Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 > http://www.ics-il.com=20 >=20 > Midwest-IX=20 > http://www.midwest-ix.com=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- >=20 > From: "Bevan Slattery" <bevan@slattery.net.au>=20 > To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20 > Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>=20 > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:44:34 PM=20 > Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"=20 >=20 > In a past life we worked with our supplier to create physically separate s= ub-enclosures.1/2 and 1/3. Able to build in a separate and secure cable path= for interconnects to the meet-me-room and connection to power supplies.=20 >=20 > Can be done and I think there are now rack suppliers that do this as stand= ard. Been out of DC space for a few years now.=20 >=20 > [b]=20 >=20 >> On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> That moment when you hit send and remember a couple things=E2=80=A6=20 >>=20 >> Of course labeling of the cables.=20 >>=20 >> Maybe colored wire loom for fiber and DACs in the vertical spaces to go a= long with the previously mentioned color scheme?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----=20 >> Mike Hammett=20 >> Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 >> http://www.ics-il.com=20 >>=20 >> Midwest-IX=20 >> http://www.midwest-ix.com=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>=20 >> From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20 >> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>=20 >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53:17 PM=20 >> Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I am finding a bunch of covers for the front. I do wish they stuck out mo= re than an inch (like two).=20 >> http://www.middleatlantic.com/~/media/middleatlantic/documents/techdocs/s= _sf%20series%20security%20covers_96-035/96_035s_sf.ashx=20 >>=20 >> It looks like these guys stick out 1.5=E2=80=9D. That may be workable=E2=80= =A6 http://www.lowellmfg.com/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/f= iles/1717-SSCV.pdf=20 >>=20 >> I guess those covers are really only useful for servers. That really woul= dn=E2=80=99t work with a switch\router. Switches and routers are going to be= the bulk of what we=E2=80=99re dealing with.=20 >>=20 >> I am finding locking power cables, but that seems to be specific to the P= DU you=E2=80=99re using as it requires the other half of the lock on the PDU= .=20 >>=20 >> I did come across colored power cords. I wonder with some enforced cable m= anagement, colored power cables, etc. we would have =E2=80=9Cgood enough=E2=80= =9D? You get some 1U or 2U cable organizers, require cables to be secured to= the management, vertical cables in shared spaces are bound together by cust= omer, color of Velcro matches color of the power cord? Blue customer, green c= ustomer, red customer, etc. Could do the cat6 patch cables that way too, but= that gets lost when moving to glass or DACs.=20 >>=20 >> I thought about a web cam that would record anyone coming into the cabine= t, but Equinix doesn=E2=80=99t really allow pictures in their facilities, so= that=E2=80=99s not going to fly. Door contacts should be helpful for an aud= it log of at least when the doors were opened or closed.=20 >>=20 >> Financial penalty from the violator to the victim if there=E2=80=99s an u= h oh?=20 >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m not trying to save someone from themselves. I=E2=80=99m not t= rying to lock the whole thing down. Just trying to prevent mistakes in a sha= red space.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----=20 >> Mike Hammett=20 >> Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 >> http://www.ics-il.com=20 >>=20 >> Midwest-IX=20 >> http://www.midwest-ix.com=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>=20 >> From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20 >> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>=20 >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:59:08 AM=20 >> Subject: Shared cabinet "security"=20 >>=20 >> I say "security" because I know that in a shared space, nothing is comple= tely secure. I also know that with enough intent, someone will accomplish wh= atever they set out to do regarding breaking something of someone else's. My= concern is mainly towards mitigation of accidents. This could even apply to= a certain degree to things within your own space and your own careless tech= s=20 >>=20 >> If you have multiple entities in a shared space, how can you mitigate the= chances of someone doing something (assuming accidentally) to disrupt your o= perations? I'm thinking accidentally unplug the wrong power cord, patch cord= , etc. Accidentally power off or reboot the wrong device.=20 >>=20 >> Obviously labels are an easy way to point out to someone that's looking a= t the right place at the right time. Some devices have a cage around the pow= er cord, but some do not.=20 >>=20 >> Any sort of mesh panels you could put on the front\rear of your gear that= you would mount with the same rack screw that holds your gear in?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----=20 >> Mike Hammett=20 >> Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 >> http://www.ics-il.com=20 >>=20 >> Midwest-IX=20 >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >=20
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