[187509] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cable Operator List
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Colton Conor)
Wed Feb 3 09:26:15 2016
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:26:12 -0600
From: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
To: Frank Bulk <frnkblk@iname.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Frank,
Thanks for the advice, but I am looking for a low density, low cost
solution.
I have found some G.HN briges that are made from MDU enviroments, and seem
cheaper than a small CMTS system. Anyone have expierence with G.HN?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:07 PM, <frnkblk@iname.com> wrote:
> If you need density along the Arris line, skip the C4 and go straight to
> the E6000.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:18 AM
> To: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Cable Operator List
>
> Hey Colton,
>
> We=E2=80=99re using small 16 channel CMTS systems for residential MDUs an=
d
> colocating them directly on premise inside of wiring closets and then
> connecting them by metro ethernet. We=E2=80=99ve had great successes so =
far with
> this model.
>
> There=E2=80=99s lots of CMTS vendors.
>
> There=E2=80=99s tons of used Motorola BSR 64Ks on the market, but be awar=
e of the
> lack of useful IPv6 features (like prefix delegation) in older software
> releases. If you buy a box and want to run 7.x or 8.x, you=E2=80=99ll ne=
ed to
> relicense your downstream and upstream channels at some additional
> arbitrary fixed cost.
>
> I=E2=80=99m personally fond of these things:
>
> http://picodigital.com/product-details.php?ID=3DminiCMTS200a
>
> You can only bond 16 channels together max though because that=E2=80=99s =
all the
> box supports and you can=E2=80=99t bond across boxes; however, these thin=
gs are
> less than 4 grand if you buy them in bulk so they=E2=80=99re really fucki=
ng easy to
> just spam everywhere.
>
> Blonder Tongue makes a pizza-box style CMTS too:
>
>
> http://www.blondertongue.com/shop-by-department/catv/ip-over-coax/docsis/=
euro-docsis/
>
> As does Harmonics:
>
> http://harmonicinc.com/product/cable-edge/nsg-exo
>
> All three are based on the same chipset, so the real differentiation is
> price and firmware features.
>
> Then there=E2=80=99s Cisco.
>
> The UBR is a popular platform. And pretty soon there=E2=80=99s going to =
be a glut
> of UBR10Ks on the Market because Comcast is busy ripping their UBRs out o=
f
> production because they=E2=80=99re upgrading their cable plant to the CBR=
platform.
>
> Then the Arris C4, if you have deep pockets, is a modern version of the
> BSR:
>
> http://www.arris.com/products/c4-cmts/
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >
> > Well, maybe NANOG's not a bad place for this post then! I would like to
> know more about the data-only side of CMTS systems, and who the main
> vendors are.
> >
> > We have MDU properties where there is either old inside CAT3 phone wire=
,
> or coaxial cable. We have looked and are very familiar with the multiple
> technologies that work over phone lines namely VDSL2 and G.FAST. However,
> using the coaxial cable seems to be a much better solution than using the
> phone wires.
> >
> > So I am looking for compacts, low cost CMTS systems. Based on the specs=
,
> I am looking for something at least DOCSIS 3.0 capable, with at least 16X=
4
> output. Something with the ability to upgrade to software upgrade to DOCS=
IS
> 3.1 would be nice, but I doubt that would be a low cost solution.
> >
> > Whats out there for small operators that don't want a large chassis
> based system to feed an entire town with.
> >
> > So far I have found the
> http://picodigital.com/product-details.php?ID=3DminiCMTS200a which seems =
to
> retail for under $5000.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Daniel Corbe <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there any mailing lists out there dedicated for cable/MSO type
> > > operators?
> > >
> >
> > I'm curious about this too.
> >
> > I=E2=80=99m not a cable operator (in that I haven=E2=80=99t successfull=
y registered for
> a cable franchise yet) but I do operate a docsis network and I=E2=80=99ve
> successfully negotiated the treacherous waters of obtaining and providing
> content to my users.
> >
> > I=E2=80=99m still a bit green behind the ears but I could probably offe=
r some
> measure of assistance if you have a specific question.
> >
> > -Daniel
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
