[187396] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Netflix NOC? VPN Mismarked?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jan 28 13:46:30 2016
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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:40:05 -0800
To: Bacon Zombie <baconzombie@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> On Jan 28, 2016, at 05:46 , Bacon Zombie <baconzombie@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Do all "smart" TVs and Game consoles fully support IPv6 out of the =
box?
>=20
Sadly, hardly any so far. A few models from Sony is all so far to the =
best
of my knowledge. However, there is effort continuing on that front and =
my
hat=E2=80=99s off to JJB from Comcast for his effective efforts in this =
regard.
I=E2=80=99ve made some efforts and ARIN has made several efforts as =
well.
The situation is slowly getting better.
I believe IPv6 support will be coming to Apple TV soon. I don=E2=80=99t =
know
what the plans (if any) are at TiVO. I=E2=80=99m overdue to hammer on =
them
again.
> On 28 Jan 2016 10:17, "Chris Knipe" <savage@savage.za.org =
<mailto:savage@savage.za.org>> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com =
<mailto:owen@delong.com>> wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Fortunately Netflix is running IPv6 for most things already. If =
you=E2=80=99re an
> > ISP and you=E2=80=99re not
> > allowing them to reach Netflix via IPv6, then you=E2=80=99re part of =
the problem
> > rather than the solution.
> >
> >
> Sure. Easy to say when you have access to IPv6, and your transit =
providers
> actually PROVIDE IPv6 services.
If you are subscribing to transit providers that don=E2=80=99t provide =
IPv6, then you
should be doing something about that. It=E2=80=99s not like there are no =
transit providers
in ZA that support IPv6. I know for a fact that at least Liquid can =
deliver
IPv6 there. I suspect there are others as well.
> So sick and tired of this IPv6 preaching. There are HUGE obstacles in =
huge
> parts of the world preventing the use of IPv6.
Such as? The only way this gets better is if we actually start taking =
actions
to knock those obstacles down. I=E2=80=99ve done that in lots of places. =
I=E2=80=99ll continue
to do so where I can.
There are huge obstacles coming to continuing to use IPv4, too. The =
difference
is that we _CAN_ overcome the obstacles to IPv6 deployment. IPv4 has no =
such
hope.
> Simply throwing IPv6 as a solution to absolutely everything, is hardly =
an
> solution at all I'm afraid.
IPv6 doesn=E2=80=99t solve everything. It solves the shortage of =
addresses and allows
us to side-step the problems with IPv4 CGN and certain other issues that
arise as a result of address shortages in IPv4.
I=E2=80=99ve never suggested that IPv6 is a solution to anything other =
than this specific
set of problems. However, the set of problems being discussed in this =
thread does
seem to specifically relate to that particular issue.
Owen
