[187364] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jan 28 04:18:40 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <56A9ACA4.80602@seacom.mu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 01:16:34 -0800
To: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> While I do not disagree that larger providers looking to protect their
> revenues is an economically-sound objective, I think the typical =
peering
> policies of old do not entirely hold up in 2016.
I=E2=80=99m pretty convinced that they never really did. I realize =
they=E2=80=99ve been popular
conventional wisdom for some time now, but that was brought about when =
Telcos
started being the dominant players in the ISP market and I always =
regarded it
as an artifact of =E2=80=9Ccarrier mentality=E2=80=9D where they were so =
used to the settlement
mechanisms of the traditional telephone network.
The reality is that the traditional telephone network has been getting =
slowly
superseded by the internet largely because of the differences in the =
settlement
model. If TDM and its settlement model were cheaper than VOIP, there =
would be
little reason to spend money deploying VOIP. Unified communications has =
some
benefits, but not really enough in most real world implementations to =
overcome
the costs if it wasn=E2=80=99t reducing the corporate phone-spend.
For many years, telcos tried all kinds of strange things and in some =
remote
regions these are still happening. For example in some places, they =
sought
regulatory protection of their =E2=80=9Cright to revenue=E2=80=9D for =
voice calls by actually
getting laws against VOIP services and the like. Those laws still exist =
in
some areas and their economies are suffering for it.
Bottom line, I=E2=80=99ve never seen a case where any ISP has =
definitively benefited
from a restrictive peering policy. At best, it=E2=80=99s a neutral =
factor that most
people just sort of accept. Routinely, it drives business away from such
ISPs towards Tier-2s with good transit relationships and a better =
peering
policy. At worst, I=E2=80=99ve seen it create active bad will in various =
communities
as is the current case with Cogent and is a demonstrable factor in the
decline of SPRINT.
Owen
