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Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jan 20 14:02:17 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <9578293AE169674F9A048B2BC9A081B401C9BCDD29@MUNPRDMBXA1.medline.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:01:05 -0800
To: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Unmanned aircraft systems are subject to the same Temporary Flight =
Restrictions(TFR) as manned aircraft.
While the TFRs for Superbowl 50 are not yet published, you can be =
assured that the FAA will issue some
and likely several.
Most likely everything below at least 10,000 feet for at least a 5 =
nautical mile radius of the stadium
will be closed to all but the following:
1. Flight operations in support of the superbowl authorized =
by superbowl management
2. Scheduled Air Carriers
3. Military
4. Law Enforcement
5. Medical/Emergency Services
6. Possibly certain other flights authorized by ATC and on =
a discrete transponder code.
It=E2=80=99s not unlikely that this will go to 18,000 instead of just =
10,000 and also not unlikely that this could
extend to 10 or even 15 nautical miles.
Personally, I=E2=80=99m planning to drive out of the area on the 5th and =
not return until the 11th or maybe even
the 12th to avoid the whole mess. I want nothing to do with the first =
Superbowl in the worst possible
place to put a stadium in the bay area.
Whatever idiot(s) thought putting a major stadium at the confluence of =
the most congested freeways
in the bay area was a good idea should be flayed.
The only good thing I can say about the stadium is that unlike the San =
Jose Arena, I am not being
forced to subsidize Levi=E2=80=99s advertising through taxes to the best =
of my knowledge.
I expect the traffic on the ground to be a nightmare and everything =
related to aviation in the area
to be even worse. There will likely be limited landing and parking =
reservation slots allocated at all
surrounding airports (SJC, HWD, RHV, E16, PAO, and possibly even SQL, =
SFO, OAK, CVH, SNS).
According to preliminary data, the Superbowl will affect operations at =
APC, CCR, CVH, HWD, LVK, MRY,
OAK, PAO, RHV, SCK, SFO, SNS, SQL, STS, and WVI. (Not sure why E16 =
didn=E2=80=99t make the list, but I guarantee
you it will be affected).
=E2=80=9CSpecial security provisions=E2=80=9D whatever that means will =
be implmented in the San Jose and San Francisco areas
three to five days prior to the Super Bowl.
More information can be found here:
=
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2016/January/05/Super-Bowl-50-=
flight-advisory-coming =
<http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2016/January/05/Super-Bowl-50=
-flight-advisory-coming>
Owen
Commercial Pilot, Airplane Single Engine Land, Instrument Airplane
Drone enthusiast
AOPA Member
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:25 , Naslund, Steve <SNaslund@medline.com> =
wrote:
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> Helicopters near the Super Bowl are cleared to be there and are flown =
by vetted professional pilots. A human pilot in a helicopter presumably =
has some kind of qualification to be there while a drone (although I =
don't like that word) could be flown by any moron with a couple hundred =
bucks. I also think the government is going completely overboard with =
the "drone threat" but in the case of the Super Bowl, there should =
definitely be a reasonable restriction on drone flights, ANY flight for =
that matter. I think reasonable drone pilots would agree with that.
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> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of =
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:46 AM
> To: Rafael Possamai
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl
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> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 15:41:31 -0600, Rafael Possamai said:
>> I fail to see how drones relate to fiber cuts and the superbowl. Did=20=
>> the article author just throw that in there? The news helicopter=20
>> getting aerial footage also poses a risk, so not sure what's special =
about drones.
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> Drones don't cost $200 per hour to keep in the air, and they're not as =
obvious as a helicopter. So it becomes a lot easier to get in there and =
grab some unauthorized video....
