[187057] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: de-peering for security sake
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sat Jan 16 21:48:56 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <22A6FA1E-4468-4C6F-8945-0B66140FBD87@delong.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:48:38 -0500
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:09:27 -0800, Owen DeLong said:
> > Making the owner of the host responsible for an attack -personally-
> > responsible would require every grandma & 6 year old to have insurance before
> > buying a laptop or Xbox. And would bankrupt your favorite startup no matter how
> > smart & competent the first time a zero-day caught them by surprise.
> Agreed… I think, instead, that the commercial purveyors of vulnerable software
> should be held liable.
And this is another one that needs *really* careful definitions.
How much time does Redhat get to patch a bug in (say) OpenSSH or the kernel
or any other package from upstream, before you want to hold them liable?
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