[187053] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: de-peering for security sake
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Jan 16 14:03:00 2016
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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:01:36 -0800
To: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> The pessimistic side of me believes cloudflare and akamai want the =
internet
> to be choked with bots such that everyone must pay their toll, so the
> information on the bots is a trade secret... But please prove me wrong =
so
> we can drive higher accountability on the internet.
I am not speaking for Akamai here and I have nothing to do with dDOS =
product
development there.
However, I will say that there is great expense involved in collecting =
the kind
of data you are now asking them to aggregate and release for free and =
there is
commercial value in selling protection services.
However, just as there is great value in providing health care services, =
I doubt
that physicians are out there cheering for disease and affliction. I=E2=80=
=99m quite
certain we would all be happy to market other services in the absence of =
a need
for dDOS mitigation services.
However, if you want to see this kind of data captured and disseminated =
for free,
I suggest you build a consortium to do so and find a way to fund it. I =
have no
input into the decision, but I think it would be absurd for a commercial =
entity
to give away data which is so expensive to obtain.
Owen