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Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Jan 11 14:25:20 2016

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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:21:08 -0800
To: Jeremy Austin <jhaustin@gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:07 , Jeremy Austin <jhaustin@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com =
<mailto:owen@delong.com>> wrote:
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>> My favorite is actually having enough bandwidth to meet demand. What =
a concept. Ought to work for terrestrial; where we run out of =
spectrum/bandwidth is in shared-medium last-mile.=20
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> That=E2=80=99s not a billing model=E2=80=A6 We were talking about =
billing models.
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> What=E2=80=99s your favorite billing model?
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> Heh. I had said "fairness" =E2=80=94 perhaps we both support unfair =
billing but fair supply?=20
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> Two sides of the same tarnished coin, supply and demand.
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> Which model I prefer=E2=80=A6 Diogenes, when asked what kind of wine =
he liked best, replied "The wine of others."
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> As a user in that top 10%, I like my bandwidth subsidized by my =
unwitting peers. As an ISP, I'm managing to sell it AYCE, but I'm small =
potatoes. My opinions are my own but largely informed by what I observe =
for customer satisfaction, contrasting models in an uncompetitive =
market.

As another user in that top 10%, I don=E2=80=99t mind paying the freight =
for the data I use and I pay the extra $30/month for an unlimited plan =
vs. the lower tiers at lower prices.

OTOH, the other 4 lines on my account as lesser users, I=E2=80=99m =
accepting the free 1GB of LTE and then they run at 128k for the rest of =
the month. Two of these lines, however, are in the hands of teenagers, =
so I=E2=80=99m not willing to risk having to pay exhorbitant overage =
fees if they go over.

That=E2=80=99s what keeps me on T-Mo at the moment. There=E2=80=99s no =
way to get on Verizon and not take an overage risk (short of just paying =
up front for huge amounts of data every month).

With T-Mo, when they run out of data, they run out of fast data, but =
stuff doesn=E2=80=99t completely break. That=E2=80=99s a very nice =
solution for my niche.

Owen




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