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Re: announcement of freerouter

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Dec 29 13:32:21 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAC6=tfY5bpO0oES70wJ4Y9JQc__UNLOxXmceh2nx6qKM1P_zbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:29:06 -0800
To: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>, Mike - st257 <silvertip257@gmail.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

In fairness, when I first looked at the page, I was confused too.

It said it ran as a =E2=80=9CRouter OS Process=E2=80=9D which made me =
think that it was
somehow a virtual router that ran inside the Mikrotik operating system
known as Router SO and I was scratching my head going:

A: How can that possibly work?
B: Why would you want it to?

Now, realizing that the guy probably made an honest mistake without =
realizing
he was using someone else=E2=80=99s trade name in the process, it makes =
much more sense.

Confusing, but in the end, much ado about nothing[1] all around.

Owen

[1] No intent here to misuse any intellectual property of any Bard or =
other person.


> On Dec 29, 2015, at 01:08 , Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> It wasn't about trolling, it was about legitimate prior art and =
reasonably
> so. Also, there's potentially a confusing association between the two.
>=20
> I'm glad the terminology was removed.
> On Dec 28, 2015 2:31 PM, "Laszlo Hanyecz" <laszlo@heliacal.net> wrote:
>=20
>> Mike,
>>=20
>> Csaba's front page previously described the software as being a
>> 'routerOS', like in the very first sentence on the page.  I'm =
assuming that
>> the person who complained about that didn't read past the first =
sentence
>> and just wanted to troll.  It's obvious to me that decades of work =
have
>> gone into this free router software, and the term router OS was just =
being
>> used to describe what the software does - an OS for a router.
>>=20
>> It looks to me like the author has a deep understanding of networking =
to
>> be able to implement all this from scratch and I think we can learn a =
lot
>> from reading this code.  He's also giving it away for free, which is =
hard
>> to argue with.
>>=20
>> -Laszlo
>>=20
>> On 2015-12-28 18:28, Mike - st257 wrote:
>>=20
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 22:23:24 -0600
>>>> From: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> To: mate csaba <matecs@niif.hu>
>>>> Cc: cs@nop.hu, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: announcement of freerouter
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>         <CAC6=3Dtfb4=3DDmpXBgG159NH-p+uTxa+uwf3vOrB=3D
>>>> rsS8T6YQ7Fsg@mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8
>>>>=20
>>>> RouterOS is an existing product by MikroTik.
>>>>=20
>>>> Mate Csaba's message had nothing to do with MikroTik RouterOS (from
>>> Latvia,
>>> which doesn't include IS-IS support). And Mikrotik RouterOS isn't =
free.
>>> ;-)
>>>=20
>>> Why was this response about RouterOS?  (Am I missing something?)
>>>=20
>>> The posted presentations/slides touch upon the feature set of =
FreeRtr
>>> (which is similiar to MT RouterOS, but which many production-ready =
Network
>>> OSes have).
>>> http://freerouter.nop.hu/present.html
>>> And CLI output examples:
>>> http://freerouter.nop.hu/present.html
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 24, 2015 9:46 PM, "mate csaba" <matecs@niif.hu> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> hi,
>>>>> pleased to announce a stable release of freerouter.
>>>>>=20
>>>> Neat.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> this is a routing daemon that does packet handling itself
>>>>> so it can do bridging, routing ipv4/ipv6 unicast/multicast,
>>>>> mpls, vpls, evpn, mpls te, mldp, segment routing, and so on...
>>>>> speaks a lot of routing protocols like rip, ospf, isis, eigrp, =
bgp,
>>>>> babel...
>>>>> does a lot of tunneling like gre, ipip, ipsec, l2tp, geneve, =
vxlan,
>>>>> nvgre...
>>>>> have a lot of built in servers like dns, http(s), smtp, pop3, =
telnet,
>>>>> tacacs, radius, ssh...
>>>>> it can start external images which could be connected, so various =
lab
>>>>> topolgies can be easily created.
>>>>> our nren uses if as primary fullbgp rr for more than a year for =
about
>>>>> hundred routers.
>>>>> here is the homepage: http://freerouter.nop.hu/
>>>>> feel free to try it out and send suggestions/bug reports...:)
>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>> csaba mate
>>>>> niif/hungarnet
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20


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