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Re: de-peering for security sake

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Colin Johnston)
Fri Dec 25 15:10:48 2015

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From: Colin Johnston <colinj@gt86car.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:10:38 +0000
To: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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why do the chinese network folks never reply and action abuse reports, norma=
l slow speed network abuse is tolerated, but not high speed deliberate abuse=
 albeit compromised machines

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> On 25 Dec 2015, at 19:43, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
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>> On 25 December 2015 at 20:06, Lee <ler762@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Enable IPv6 for your users.  1) it's not going to have any "history" &
>> 2) ipv6 probably isn't blocked.
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> I am not aware of just one single government site in this country (Denmark=
)
> that is IPv6 enabled. There are zero danish news sites that are IPv6
> enabled. In fact, nothing here is IPv6 enabled - with the exception of all=

> major ISP sites. For some strange reason all ISPs have IPv6 on their
> websites (but they do not provide IPv6 to their customers). It is sad
> really.
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>>> So now my users can not access government sites because the IP ranges
>> were
>>> owned by a company in a different country two years ago.
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>> Find one of your users that's a citizen of said gov't & forward their
>> complaint to the gov't sites.  Non-citizen complaints are much easier
>> to ignore..
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> I am a citizen and yes, they do ignore us. If you can manage to find the
> right guy, he can probably fix it in a few minutes. It is just that there
> is no way to get to that guy. The front desk has no clue what you are
> talking about. To these people we should just stop sending traffic from
> Romania and it would all be fixed, no?
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> To make it worse it is a really boring game of whack a mole. The users are=

> constantly finding new sites that are either blocking us or are showing th=
e
> site in the wrong language. Each time we open up a new IP series, it all
> starts over again. We do not have enough cash on hand to simply buy a real=

> large chunk of IPv4, so we have multiple smaller blocks.
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> With regards to this thread, I am finding a worrying trend for websites to=

> block out of country IP-addresses at the firewall. In the past you could
> expect that some content would not play or that your credit card payment
> would be blocked. But now you never get to that stage because sites are
> dropping the packets at the firewall.
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> Regards,
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> Baldur

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