[186510] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nat
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Sun Dec 20 22:38:48 2015
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:36:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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We can't get people to use passwords judiciously (create them at all for WiFi, change them, use more than one, etc.) and now you want them to manage networks?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Fischer" <randy.fischer@gmail.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:34:16 PM
Subject: Re: Nat
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote:
Most people couldn't care less and just want the Internet on their device to work.
Well, if the best practice for CPE routers included as a matter of course the subnets "connected to internet", "local only (e.g. IoT)" and "guest network", and if they just worked, then they wouldn't mind that either.
A friend of mine used to refer to this as 'refrigerator consciousness" - he was a gearhead, so it was a pejorative. Instead, I think of it as a design goal.
-Randy Fischer
