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Re: CDN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Sat Dec 19 12:44:48 2015

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To: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net>, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:44:35 -0800
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On 12/19/15 8:16 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> I don=E2=80=99t think anyone really would tell where their critical net=
work assets are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they h=
ave connection points available.

in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are going to
be a little less coy about where there assets are. in particular the CDN
bits are interested in peering nearer to your region of operation rather
than further.

http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using-regions-availabi=
lity-zones.html
https://beta.peeringdb.com/net/1418

https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/index.html
https://beta.peeringdb.com/net/433

https://www.cloudflare.com/network-map/
https://beta.peeringdb.com/net/4224


>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wr=
ote:
>>
>> PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyone puts=
 stuff into PeeringDB when they have on-net nodes.
>>
>> In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have signific=
ant deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all=
 that, but if you pick random large eyeball network, chances are very, ve=
ry high they have no one other than those three - if they have any at all=
=2E
>>
>> --=20
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> looking at peeringdb -- http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D16509=
 might
>>> give you an idea where they are.
>>>
>>> mehmet
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Ahmed Munaf <ahmed.dalaali@hrins.net=
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if AWS amazon =E2=80=9Ccloudfront=E2=80=9D, cloud f=
lare, Microsoft =E2=80=A6 etc,
>>>> hosting their servers on other party providers?
>>>> just like what GGC and Akamai do by hosting their servers on other I=
SP=E2=80=99s
>>>> datacenter!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>=20
>=20



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