[186412] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nat
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Wed Dec 16 19:14:26 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 00:14:20 +0000
In-Reply-To: <6B6686E3-D30B-4E42-8F06-F8077D62894F@isc.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Mark,
Why? Why do WE "need" to force people to bend to our will? The market will =
get us all there eventually.=20
I don't like what you eat. Lets put a surcharge on it to make you feel pain=
and do what I want. :)
-mel beckman
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>=20
> This doesn't put pain on those that have enough addresses that they don't=
need
> to NAT yet. We need to put some pain onto everyone that is IPv4 only.
>=20
> Mark
>=20
>> On 17/12/2015, at 10:39 AM, Charles Monson <charles.lists@camonson.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> We need to make IPv4 painful to use. Adding delay between SYN and SYN/=
ACK would
>> be one way to achieve this. Start at 100ms..200ms and increase it by 10=
0ms each year.
>>=20
>> It seems like NAT would be another way to make IPv4 more painful to use.
>=20