[186410] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nat
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (alvin nanog)
Wed Dec 16 18:50:56 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:49:06 -0800
From: alvin nanog <nanogml@Mail.DDoS-Mitigator.net>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-Reply-To: <770D0609-0A3A-4142-854F-210410682D69@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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hi folkx
On 12/17/15 at 10:28am, Mark Andrews wrote:
> We need to make IPv4 painful to use.
already is too crowded
> Adding delay between SYN and SYN/ACK would be one way to achieve this.
<flame suiton>
change tcp windoow size to 1 byte per packet or decrease from 1500 byte
packets, more traffic they use, slower it becomes
instead of zero byte as used in tarpits
> Start at 100ms..200ms and increase it by 100ms each year.
some of verizon's shared IPv4 traffic has delays exceeding 3sec
and i seen it exceeding 6sec for simple things like using gmail
thru their network
"delays" are built in automatically ...
- too much spam ..
- too much useless video downloads
- too much useless steaming
- too much useless pix
- too much games
and alll that junk will increase as more people use it
it'd be nice to put these "services" on their own private LAN
and slow just themself down instead of slowing everybody down
pay more $$$ to get better/faster connectivity ...
</flame suiton>
ducking for cover
alvin
