[186223] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 Cogent vs Hurricane Electric
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Reynolds)
Fri Dec 4 21:47:58 2015
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In-Reply-To: <56624F66.3070600@winterei.se>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:47:35 -0600
From: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Is "tier" even a thing anymore?
On Dec 4, 2015 8:46 PM, "Paul S." <contact@winterei.se> wrote:
> It is worth noting that HE indeed provides the full view, it's the other
> side that has an issue.
>
> (Since HE isn't really a tier 1, their transit relationships with Telia
> and other carriers "save" them)
>
> Cogent -> HE dies with unreachable on the first hop though, and that's an
> issue for Cogent customers.
>
> On 12/5/2015 11:09 AM, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
>
>> On 5 December 2015 at 02:43, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Or, if you feel that Cogent's stubborn insistence on partitioning the
>>>> global v6 internet
>>>>
>>> if A does not peer with B,
>>> then for all A and B
>>> they are evil partitioners?
>>>
>>> can we lower the rhetoric?
>>>
>>> They both loses on this. In fact anyone claiming tier 1 status loses
>> here,
>> because this illustrates why you can never be single homed on a tier 1
>> network. These guys simply do not have the full internet.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Baldur
>>
>
>
