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Re: IPv6 Cogent vs Hurricane Electric

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Dec 3 21:02:03 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <98647D12-9795-4B78-AD19-2588674A6C77@u13.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 21:02:04 -0500
To: Ryan Rawdon <ryan@u13.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Ryan Rawdon <ryan@u13.net> wrote:
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>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> wrote:
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>> Hi All,
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>> we got an issue today that announces from Cogent don't reach =
Hurricane
>> Electric. HE support said that's a feature, not a bug.
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>> So we have splitted Internet again?
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>> I have to change at least one of my uplinks because of it, which one =
is
>> better to drop, HE or Cogent?
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> There is another option, instead of choosing just one - perhaps =
establish a tunnel to HE from a L3 device that can do the tunneling in =
hardware?  You can get a HE tunnel for free, and they will speak BGP to =
you.
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> Alternatively, if you are on any IXes where HE is present - they will =
not only peer with you for v6, but announce a full table if you want it.

Looking at the most recent IPv6 data available at CAIDA you can see the =
customer cone size:

http://as-rank.caida.org/?data-selected-id=3D15

Be careful as the tool seems fragile when switching from the 2014-09-01 =
IPv6 dataset and trying to sort by options, it seems to switch back to =
IPv4 silently.

Prefixes and/or AS=E2=80=99es in customer cone are likely the best =
measure, but even there Cogent is 2x HE.net.  The only place where =
he.net leads is the transit degree with is likely distorted because of =
what you mention above, full tables, etc.

I find this data interesting and wish there was something more recent =
than 2014-09-01 to test with.  Perhaps I could do something with all =
these atlas credits I have.  (or someone could use them for me).

- Jared=

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