[185971] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Fri Nov 20 11:39:30 2015
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:33:46 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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(CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION - just a swag)
isn't this just moving content to v6 and/or behind the great-nat-of-tmo?
'reduce our need for NAT infra and incent customers to stop using NAT
requiring services' ?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> wrot=
e:
> T-Mobile claims they are not accepting any payment from these content
> providers for inclusion in Binge On.
>
> "Onstage today, Legere said any company can apply to join the Binge On
> program. "Anyone who can meet our technical requirement, we=E2=80=99ll in=
clude," he
> said. "This is not a net neutrality problem." Legere pointed to the fact
> that Binge On doesn't charge providers for inclusion and customers don't =
pay
> to access it."
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/10/9704482/t-mobile-uncarrier-binge-on-ne=
tflix-hbo-streaming
>
>
>
> On 11/20/15 10:45 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>
>> According to:
>>
>>
>> http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/20/fcc-chairman-gives-t-mobiles-binge-on=
-the-thumbs-up/
>>
>> Chairman Wheeler thinks that T-mob's new "customers can get uncapped med=
ia
>> stream data, but only from the people we like" service called Binge On
>> is pro-competition.
>>
>> My take on this is that the service is *precisely* what Net Neutrality
>> was supposed to prevent -- carriers offering paid fast-lanes to content
>> providers -- and that this is anti-competitive to the sort of "upstart
>> YouTube" entities that NN was supposed to protect...
>>
>> and that *that* is the competition that NN was supposed to protect.
>>
>> And I just said the same thing two different ways.
>>
>> Cause does anyone here think that T-mob is giving those *carriers* pride
>> of place *for free*?
>>
>> Corporations don't - in my experience - give away lots of money out of
>> the goodness of their hearts.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jr 'whacky weekend' a
>
>
