[185891] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Advance notice - H-root address change on December 1, 2015
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Mon Nov 16 19:55:37 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <20151117001626.7C9633CC5570@rock.dv.isc.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:55:31 -0500
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
This action by red hat is nice from a stability perspective but infuriates m=
any standards derived folks like ISC/BIND and NTP amongst others as a versio=
n number means something to them.=20
This dialogue is typically broken from both sides as expectations are differ=
ent and bug reports get lost between the OS packaging and the supplier packa=
ging. Sometimes this is good other times it can be quite bad.=20
I would prefer to see fewer variants and better bug fixes across the board b=
ut the enterprise side often want a specific version number and expect fixes=
that the upstream maintainers don't want to keep the same version numbering=
for "that fix" or add a stealth feature and red hat may not want to pick it=
up...=20
Not saying who is right or wrong but these views sometimes drive the intract=
able situation where 4.2.6 is shipped for NTP from red hat (as example) but i=
t is EOL from the NTP.org folks.=20
The good news is most people don't need all 13 hints, or more when you consi=
der them dual stacked like all new DNS servers are :-)
Either way it's confusing to everyone involved and why I generally track fed=
ora myself.=20
Jared Mauch
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> In message <A94D98ED-538E-4B0E-B91D-AD63D485DB0F@lboro.ac.uk>, Alan Buxey w=
rites:
>> No. CentOS follows RedHat. They backport fixes to older versions rather=
>> than put the new version out. It appears that have aversion to new
>> feature and just want to put the fixes onto the older versions. So that
>> 9.9.4 probably has 60% of the changes that the diff of 9.9.4 has to 9.9.8=
>> . This action confuses most.
>>=20
>> alan
>=20
> The point of putting out maintainence releases is to fix bugs in
> the existing code not to introduce features. We leave features to
> the .0 releases. The [func] below are bug fixes / security fixes.
>=20
> Even with 60% of the changes one is missing a huge number of bug
> fixes.
