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Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Sun Nov 15 12:21:49 2015

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:21:46 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why not both?  So sad when you have to choose a single oppressive regime to
> track your internet use.

to be fair, probably:
  o china sees the local mobile and can easily unwrap the probably not
encrypted outer packet headers to get your 'metadata'
  o five-eyes sees the over-water transimission(s) and does the same as above
  o US folk see at the GPRx in the US

So really there's 6 regimes all repressive, in their own right, involved.

> T
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 09:04 Brandon Butterworth <brandon@rd.bbc.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> > This is what roaming data means, Your data packet is simply trunked to
>> > your original operator to process.  So you will be having a US ip on
>> > the web.
>>
>> And continuity of US tracking of your use rather than temporary Chinese
>> tracking
>>
>> brandon
>>

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