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Re: DNSSEC and ISPs faking DNS responses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Nov 14 04:28:47 2015

X-Original-To: Nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <F20273BB-8794-4B7B-B3AC-07F06E2074DD@arbor.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 01:27:39 -0800
To: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
Cc: "Nanog@nanog.org" <Nanog@nanog.org>
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> On Nov 14, 2015, at 00:21 , Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> wrote:
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> On 14 Nov 2015, at 13:36, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
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>> With regards to VPNs: while they may not be very well known in the =
USA, they are outside the USA where many people need VPNs to access =
foreign content that is geoblocked in their home country.
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> I do not live in the United States; I live outside the United States, =
where many expats and others want to access content from their home =
countries that is 'geoblocked'.
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> The percentage of the Internet user population who use VPNs is tiny.  =
It is growing a bit, but it isn't even a sizable minority.

Today.

Why on earth do you assume that this will not continue to expand and/or =
accelerate its rate of expansion as word spreads that it is possible?

There was a time when on-line download or streaming was dwarfed by DVDs =
and Blu-Ray sales.
There was a time when DVD/Blu-Ray/other digital formats didn=E2=80=99t =
represent even 1% of the market vs. VHS.

This is a typical adoption rate issue.

If people want a functionality that is not currently available to them, =
they will adopt and adapt technology to meet that desire over time.

The adapt part is already mostly done with VPNs as has been pointed out. =
There are now GeoBlock Bypass services readily available and easily =
installable.

The next step will be growth in adoption. We=E2=80=99ve already seen =
this occur in NZ. Likely it will spread fairly quickly to other =
geographies subject to geoblocking.

It is unlikely to spread rapidly in the US because the US suffers from =
very little geoblocking or censorship in general. Likely the first major =
market where it will see very rapid adoption will be someplace like =
China where it can be used to circumvent a wide variety of government =
network restrictions.

However, if Quebec and/or NY manage to block gambling as they are =
currently attempting to do, it=E2=80=99s very likely that such services =
will also catch on quickly in those localities.

Owen


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