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Re: DNSSEC and ISPs faking DNS responses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Nov 13 23:33:23 2015

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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <BE5F2220-9B10-4D73-98B8-D2335AFC070C@arbor.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 20:32:10 -0800
To: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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> On Nov 13, 2015, at 19:27 , Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> wrote:
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> On 14 Nov 2015, at 10:22, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> Surely time will tell, but I would not be so quick to dismiss this as =
a potential workaround after watching how quickly TOR was adopted to =
move video around during the Arab Spring.
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> By a tiny minority of people.
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> Selection bias.
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> Most people do not know what a 'VPN' is, or how to install one and get =
it working.  The number of people who do may increase somewhat over time =
due to various restrictions they seek to overcome, but it will never =
become anything close to the norm unless it is a default.

20 years ago, most people didn=E2=80=99t know what a URL or a Domain =
name was.

18 years ago, they were on every billboard.

People learn stuff as they need to.

Today, the vast majority of people don=E2=80=99t need to know what a VPN =
is.

New Zealand has become a notable exception to this situation as a result =
of their desire to watch US Netflix programming.

I see no reason to believe it would be=20

> Go out onto the street and ask a selection of random passers-by if =
they know what a VPN is, if they know how to install one, if they've =
installed one.

Not a valid test=E2=80=A6 Go out onto the street and ask a random number =
of people over 30 if they know what a URL is and how to enter one into a =
browser.

Now, ask if they learned that more or less than 20 years ago.

In 1930, nobody knew what a television was, let alone a television =
remote control. Today, the average 6 year old can operate a DirectTV =
satellite system with a relatively high degree of facility.

What the average person knows changes over time. Assuming that it does =
not strikes me as either (1) ignoring history or (2) underestimating the =
general public even more than I do, which is saying something.

Owen


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