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Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian R)
Wed Nov 11 14:58:21 2015

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From: Brian R <briansupport@hotmail.com>
To: nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:58:14 +0000
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Previously I had stated we tested Calix equipment.  That was wrong, we had =
deployed Tellabs GPON equipment.  That was what we had had problems with an=
d had not received much support on.
Apologies for the error.

I believe the reason we chose not to go with Calix was the requirement to h=
ave a constant connection between the configuration server/hardware and the=
 ONTs.  If there was a problem with the configuration server or if the ONT =
reloaded and was not able to reach the configuration server the ONT would n=
ot configure.  We like the fact that the Adtrans were configured directly o=
ff their uplink hardware and that they were capable of storing the configur=
ation on the ONT.
We did not have any problems with Calix support that I can recall.

Brian
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Brian R <briansupport@ho=
tmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:32 AM
To: Art Plato
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Art,

I can't say we have a lot of experience with the Adtran GPON units.  On the=
 Active Ethernet side if we assign an IP to the ONT we can view all the sta=
ts going back to the TA5K.  From the TA5K we can also view the individual E=
thernet ports.  I will send you directly some examples.  I don't think NANO=
G wants to see a bunch of Adtran "show ..." commands  : ]

As far as Shawns Calix experiences the last time we tried Calix GPON was 5-=
6 years ago.  The CPE seemed solid but the POP side was in constant need of=
 rebooting and we gave it up after about 8-12 months of customer frustratio=
ns.  At that time we did not get much help on the problems.

Brian

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Art Plato <aplato@coldwa=
ter.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:32 AM
To: Shawn L
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be =
all of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much=
.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn L" <shawnl@up.net>
To: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the hi=
gher side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, t=
he web, or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things=
, but the CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.


-----Original Message-----
From: "Art Plato" <aplato@coldwater.org>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To:
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence=
 Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like =
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput o=
n the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at t=
he CPE fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to g=
et light levels at the CPE.

Art.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian R" <briansupport@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrogers@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <clecny@gmail.com=
>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON=
 but the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog t=
his way. If used in the specified scope only there have been very little pr=
oblems. Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positiv=
e and negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module (=
1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE (=
1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up=
.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we=
 are sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers <ecrogers@pr=
ecisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and =
the equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly r=
ecommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this =
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

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