[18575] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG Channel Archives and Editorializing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland M.J. Meyer)
Thu Aug 6 22:21:24 1998
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 19:12:34 -0700
To: Dean Robb <pceasy@norfolk.infi.net>
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980806102603.0091a4e0@norfolk.infi.net>
At 10:26 AM 8/6/98 -0400, Dean Robb wrote:
>At 20:38 8/5/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>A request came in today to remove a post that listed a number of hosts open
>>for relaying. The individual asked me to remove the message so as to
>I vote to let them stand. The person(s) who feel they are slighted or in
>>Respond privately unless you absolutely feel a need to start a discussion
>>on it. I'll post the decision I come to on the list.
>
>I think it's an area deserving of public discussion. There are numerous
>"open relay" lists around, from folks genuinely trying to be helpful to
>spammers sharing info, so removal from the archives is not really going to
>do much for the issue one way or another. However, the question is begged:
> "Should information on potential network abuse points be shared and public
>or not?"
Yes it should. All of the majors mail packages now have versions out that
will correct the problem. Those that are still open for relaying are in
that state becasue they don't want to upgrade. As long as they are in that
condition they are a "nav hazard".
There are software utilities that will scan the Internet for open-relay
hosts, by IP address. Not putting them on a list will not hide them from
these scanners. However, it will help the spam-fighter to know where these
sites are, they can be black-holed.
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