[185642] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New ISPs getting of the ground without IPv4?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin Wilson - MTIN)
Mon Nov 2 17:36:34 2015
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From: Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists@mtin.net>
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:36:27 -0500
To: nanog-isp@mail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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The two I am working with are factoring buying IP space as part of the =
business model. Folks like Cogent are now charging a $50 BGP fee so it =
is a new world. I am seeing more and more folks go to MPLS to try and =
squeeze as many IPs out as they can. They are flattening their customer =
pools and saving a few IPs here and there.
A couple others are paying for circuits they no longer use just to hold =
onto IP space.=20
Justin Wilson
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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:53 AM, nanog-isp@mail.com wrote:
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> Surprisingly enough demand for Internet services did not end when we =
ran out of IPv4. I'd like to hear from the guys and gals starting new =
ISPs how they are facing this brave new world.=20
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> Is it NATs all the way down?
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> Is IPv6 the knight in shining armor?
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> Are you getting enough IPs? If not, how are you coping? Buying/renting =
some, tunneling to somebody who has some, what?
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> It's all good and well hearing about how you should dual stack and =
reading about how established players handle IPv6 and IPv4 exhaustion, =
but what do you do when dual stacking isn't an option and IPv6 only =
takes you so far?=20
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> Now is your chance to shine and bring us some tales from the trenches =
:)
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> Jared
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