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Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Mon Oct 26 18:47:27 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <CALA5tJ+0THefn0ShY8Tkrd34U9dift-TVPUbXV4ibQte25ADhg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:11:22 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Myth: Andrew=E2=80=99s post has utility to the 10K+ people reading it. =
(Not watching Twitter makes me braindead? really? Yeah, it=E2=80=99s =
2015. Get up-to-date, should have sent a snapchat. Duh.)
Fact: Andrew should probably just un-sub since he finds NANOG useless. =
That would actually provide utility to the rest of us.
I repeat: The UN-PAID VOLUNTEERS on the Communications Committee do a =
great job. If you think you can do better, please please please =
volunteer. Otherwise, simply thank them for doing what you refuse to do =
and get on with your life.
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TTFN,
patrick
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net> wrote:
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> All,
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> Myth: NANOG supposed to be the gold standard for best practices.
> Fact: 500 spam messages over the weekend.
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> Myth: there were no complaints and this issue was raised over the =
weekend
> Fact: I raised it this weekend via twitter twice @NANOG, and requested
> contact from SCNET (NANOG's upstream) trying to find a live person to =
shut
> it off.
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> Myth: blah blah blah social media is a bad way to get ahold of =
netops/abuse.
> Fact: Social media is an acceptable way to report abuse. My marketing
> department certainly knows how to get ahold of me when such an issue
> occurs. It's 2015, and if you and everyone you know isn't watching =
twitter
> I can't help you, because you've gone braindead.
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> Myth: but you could have reached out to someone else and maybe done
> something to stop this quickly.
> Fact: I reached out to several people at ARIN and elsewhere trying to =
get a
> live person at NANOG to no avail.
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> Myth: this is acceptable because NANOG has political clout in the US =
and
> elsewhere.
> Fact: If I was still running the AHBL, NANOG would be it's own private
> intranet right now.
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> Andrew
