[184625] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: /27 the new /24
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Mon Oct 12 13:15:25 2015
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:15:21 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> it's also not entirely obvious what the point of having local IXes
> that serve these kinds of collections of people.
>
one might consider that localized services or peer-to-peer traffic
might not want to burden the long-haul links, for the cost of a 1g or
10g port on a local switch/router.
this conversation is sort of like the ipv6 part earlier though... 'if
people want to do this, cool! if they don't or can't for $REASONS also
cool.'
> how much inter-ASN traffic is there generally for a city of 100k
> people, even if they all have 1Gb/s connections? are they all
> torrenting, accessing local business web pages that are hosted
> locally, streaming video from local streaming caches? if a local IX
> is a good place for a llnw, akamai, ggc, netflix cache node, i can see
> it, but that's about it.
it's not clear that a flix cache would rate showing up at an IX in
(for example) juneau... though it'd sure be interesting to know the
share of traffic your 4 exemplars contribute to the overall longhaul
traffic mix.
> t
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>> On 10/12/15 1:57 AM, Henrik Thostrup Jensen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Jeremy Austin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Juneau, I'm not so surprised; how many other cities that small and
>>>> isolated
>>>> have IXes? I'm curious. It's an interesting prospect, at least for som=
e
>>>> value of $location.
>>>
>>> Several small cities in Sweden have IXes. Not sure than any of them are
>>> quite as small as Juneau, but some (Bor=C3=A5s, Lule=C3=A5, Sundsvall) =
are sub
>>> 100k people, and other cities (Ume=C3=A5, Uppsala) are just over 100k
>>> inhabitants. Ume=C3=A5 and Lule=C3=A5 are releativly isolated - at leas=
t by
>>> European standards.
>>>
>>> Most of these are probably just a switch or two, and are probably there
>>> to provide better quality of service, and not because it makes for a
>>> good business.
>>
>> Sweden's IX infrastructure is not entirely unique but are certainly
>> borne out of a particular set of circumstances and public private
>> partnerships that don't generally exist elsewhere.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netnod
>>
>>>
>>> Best regards, Henrik
>>>
>>> Henrik Thostrup Jensen <htj at nordu.net>
>>> Software Developer, NORDUnet
>>>
>>
>>
