[184592] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AW: AW: AW: /27 the new /24
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Fri Oct 9 08:37:55 2015
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:37:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
To: =?utf-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWU=?= Nicolle <jerome@ceriz.fr>
In-Reply-To: <5617AEB7.8090901@ceriz.fr>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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I know of literally hundreds of ISPs using them in the US and I'm sure that=
number is in the thousands. After hearing complaints from larger networks =
of their larger gear... it's the same shit everyone else deals with.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
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From: "J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Nicolle" <jerome@ceriz.fr>=20
To: nanog@nanog.org=20
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:10:31 AM=20
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: /27 the new /24=20
Hello James,=20
Le 05/10/2015 06:45, James Jun a =C3=A9crit :=20
> I'm not aware of any carrier-grade network that operates on these things.=
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With the availability of a 80Gbps model and upcoming updates to the=20
routing process (in RouterOS 7), chances are these boxes will drag much=20
more attention in the next 2-3 years.=20
Still, it looks like their products are widely used in developping=20
countries where cheap hardware and flexible / low power requirements=20
(you'd run a CCR1009 off a car battery for a solid 2 weeks - no=20
regulator needed) makes them the only viable choice.=20
I know of at least a dozen ISP running these as well, here in western=20
Europe. It solved many space and power issues in dense carrier hotels,=20
and is a cheap and efficient way out of a 6500/7600 (in sub 20Gbps=20
scenarios) based network.=20
I wouldn't sell transit or provide criticial services with a=20
mikrotik-based network just yet, mostly for the lack of enough personnal=20
confidence and experience with them, but havin endured nights of=20
debugging with poor quality code in recent major player's routers, I=20
doubt they're as misfits as you suggest.=20
Best regards,=20
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J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Nicolle=20