[184588] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: /27 the new /24
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Fri Oct 9 07:09:28 2015
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 06:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Agreed. Often times people forget that budgets aren't unlimited and not everyone is in One Wilshire, 350 Cermak or 60 Hudson.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest Internet Exchange
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Baugher" <jason@thebaughers.com>
To: "James Jun" <james@towardex.com>
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 7:21:05 PM
Subject: Re: /27 the new /24
This thread, while originally interesting and helpful, seems to have
degraded to a contest to see who can be the most arrogant, condescending
and insulting. Congrats.
On Oct 8, 2015 6:25 PM, "James Jun" <james@towardex.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 03:45:38PM -0700, Mike wrote:
> >
> > NO, THERE IS NOT. We operate in rural and underserved areas and WE DO
> > NOT HAVE realistic choices. Can you see me from your ivory tower?
>
> Who is your upstream provider?
>
> I think you're confused on how the IP transit industry works.
>
> If you want choices in your transit providers, you should get a transport
> circuit (dark, wave or EPL) to a nearby carrier hotel/data center. Once
> you do that, you will suddenly find that virtually almost everyone in the
> competitive IP transit market will provide you with dual-stacked IPv4/IPv6
> service.
>
> If you are buying DIA circuit from some $isp to your rural location that
> you call "head-end" and are expecting to receive a competitive service,
> and support for IPv6, well, then your expectations are either unreasonable,
> ignorant or both.
>
> Best,
> James
>
