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Re: /27 the new /24

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthias Leisi)
Sun Oct 4 09:40:37 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Matthias Leisi <matthias@leisi.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 15:40:28 +0200
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <7E645C67-2F5C-4CA0-9C0E-1BA41AF24ABC@delong.com>
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> One or more of these things will be the death of IPv4:

IPv4 will not die, it will be superseded by something better :)=20

What I have found to be the greatest obstacle to IPv6 adoption is the =
state of IPv6 support in various types of CPEs / network equipment. The =
support is mostly OK in higher-end gear. But have you checked the =
support in home- or small-office devices?=20

In the handful of devices I recently had to deal with, IPv6 is always at =
best a =E2=80=9Esecond class citizen=E2=80=9C. First, there is some GUI =
for setup around IPv4. Then, if you are lucky, there are some poorly and =
inconsistently labelled  =E2=80=9EAdvanced=E2=80=9C settings that may or =
may not enable IPv6. Or may enable some semi-consistent state that has =
been in an obscure lab setup once upon a time.=20

The built-in VPN which only supports IPv4 (that one specifically on an =
Asus router). A printer that behaves differently at different times =
under IPv4 than under IPv6. A NAS that works with IPv6 - *most* of the =
time.=20

While I can personally work around most of these issues, it simply does =
not scale to even a small office environment with some semi-technical =
people. That=E2=80=99s basic stuff that just needs to work, regardless =
of whether it runs on IPv4 or IPv6.=20

> Fortunately, in this case, we have a nice new body that we can =
transplant the internet into that has many fruitful years ahead
> of it. So=E2=80=A6 Do whatever you have to to survive in the meantime, =
but focus on getting your stuff onto the IPv6 internet so that
> we can all let IPv4 go gently into that good night and have it=E2=80=99s=
 well deserved final rest.

Fully agree. But the current state of IPv6 outside "professional=E2=80=9C =
networks/devices is sincerely limited by a lot of poor CPE and consumer =
device implementations.=20

=E2=80=94 Matthias


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