[184298] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chuck Anderson)
Thu Oct 1 18:46:32 2015
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 18:45:05 -0400
From: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>
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On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:28:13AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> In message <4F2E19BA-D92A-4BEC-86E2-33B405C307BE@delong.com>, Owen DeLong writes:
> >
> > > On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz@Janoszka.pl>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2015-10-01 20:29, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > >> However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to start
> > charging extra
> > >> for IPv4 service.
> > >
> > > ISP's will not charge too much. With too expensive IPv4 many customers
> > will migrate from v4/dual stack to v6-only and ISP's will be left with
> > unused IPv4 addresses and less income.
> >
> > Nope… They’ll be left with unused IPv4 addresses which is not a
> > significant source of income and they’ll be able to significantly reduce
> > the costs incurred
> > in supporting things like CGNAT.
> >
> > > Will ISP's still find other profitable usage for v4 addresses? If not,
> > they will be probably be quite slowly rising IPv4 pricing, not wanting to
> > overprice it.
> >
> > Probably they will sell it to business customers instead of the
> > residential customers. However, we’re talking about relatively large
> > numbers of customers
> > for relatively small numbers of IPv4 addresses that aren’t producing
> > revenue directly at this time anyway.
> >
> > > Even with $1/IPv4/month - what will be the ROI of a brand new home
> > router?
> >
> > About 2.5 years at that price since a brand new home router is about $29.
> >
> > Owen
>
> The hard part is the internet connected TV's and other stuff which
> fetches content over the internet which are IPv4 only despite being
> released when IPv6 existed. These are theoretically upgradable to
> support IPv6 so long as the manufactures release a IPv6 capable
> image. The real question is will governments force them to do this.
>
> Upgrading the router is a no brainer. Upgrading the TV, games
> consoles, e-readers, etc. starts to add up.
Just brand it as the new "6-D" TV with "128 bits of goodness to
outperform your obsolete 32 bit TV!". Then people will flock to the
stores to upgrade...
